Oops! I didn't copy the "before" records, I retyped them for the sake of this email. The first 2 should be:<br><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><a href="http://bronosky.com/" target="_blank">bronosky.com</a>. IN CNAME </span><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"> <a href="http://bronosky.com/" target="_blank">slice1.bronosky.com</a>.</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">
<span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">mail IN CNAME </span><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"> <a href="http://bronosky.com/" target="_blank">slice1.bronosky.com</a>.</span><br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Sean McNealy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sean.mcnealy@gmail.com">sean.mcnealy@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Maybe it's because I don't know a lot about DNS, but did you make a<br>
CNAME of your domain point to itself? And if that's what's going on<br>
(and I think someone will probably say why that's not), why?<br>
<div class="im"><br>
<a href="http://bronosky.com" target="_blank">bronosky.com</a>. IN CNAME <a href="http://bronosky.com" target="_blank">bronosky.com</a>.<br>
<br>
</div><div class="im">On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:35 AM, Richard Bronosky <<a href="mailto:Richard@bronosky.com">Richard@bronosky.com</a>> wrote:<br>
</div><div><div></div><div class="h5">> I use Gmail. Years ago I switched my personal email server from an IMAP<br>
> server that I'd hit with Thunderbird, over to an "alias all incoming mail to<br>
> various Gmail accounts" server. It has annoyed me to no end, however, that<br>
> when I sent emails as <a href="mailto:richard@bronosky.com">richard@bronosky.com</a>, the headers would indicate that<br>
> the email came from Gmail on behalf of my domain address.<br>
><br>
> Gmail recently added the option to have outgoing email delivered via your<br>
> preferred SMTP server. Might I add that this is awesome, generous<br>
> (considering all the extra load of connecting out and authenticating against<br>
> your closed relay), and selfless (no other free service offers this). When I<br>
> made the switch, my emails to ALE started bouncing. First of all I found<br>
> that I suffered from<br>
> <a href="http://status.slicehost.com/2009/11/11/email-issues-spamhaus-pbl" target="_blank">http://status.slicehost.com/2009/11/11/email-issues-spamhaus-pbl</a> and had to<br>
> get my IP off of the Spamhaus PBL. But then I still couldn't email ALE and I<br>
> also couldn't get password reminders sent to me, or subscribe new<br>
> @<a href="http://bronosky.com" target="_blank">bronosky.com</a> aliases via <a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale" target="_blank">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br>
><br>
> As it would turn out, I made some choices with my DNS that didn't offend<br>
> Google, Yahoo!, Comcast, or AT&T. (They would all deliver to and accept mail<br>
> from me.) ALE/Mailman on the other hand would not do either.<br>
><br>
> My DNS looked like this:<br>
> <a href="http://bronosky.com" target="_blank">bronosky.com</a>. IN CNAME <a href="http://bronosky.com" target="_blank">bronosky.com</a>.<br>
> mail IN CNAME <a href="http://bronosky.com" target="_blank">bronosky.com</a>.<br>
> slice1 IN A 174.143.204.116<br>
> <a href="http://bronosky.com" target="_blank">bronosky.com</a>. IN MX 0 <a href="http://slice1.bronosky.com" target="_blank">slice1.bronosky.com</a>.<br>
> <a href="http://bronosky.com" target="_blank">bronosky.com</a>. IN MX 0 <a href="http://bronosky.com" target="_blank">bronosky.com</a>.<br>
> <a href="http://bronosky.com" target="_blank">bronosky.com</a>. IN MX 0 <a href="http://mail.bronosky.com" target="_blank">mail.bronosky.com</a>.<br>
><br>
> Mailman kept reporting my email as coming from <a href="mailto:richard@slice1.bronosky.com">richard@slice1.bronosky.com</a>,<br>
> so it wouldn't accept it since that address wasn't subscribed. What was even<br>
> more odd is that when I would request a password reminder from<br>
> <a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale" target="_blank">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a> my mail log would register bounces<br>
> due to the destination address being the same as above, even though this<br>
> address I am now sending from was the one subscribed and the one I entered<br>
> in the form. WEIRD!<br>
><br>
> Turns out that not only is it not advisable to use a cnamed hostname for an<br>
> MX record, but Mailman was pretending that they didn't exist. It was as if<br>
> the <a href="http://slice1.bronosky.com" target="_blank">slice1.bronosky.com</a> MX record was the only record in my DNS. When I made<br>
> the following change, all was right in the world.<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://bronosky.com" target="_blank">bronosky.com</a>. IN A 174.143.204.116<br>
> mail IN A 174.143.204.116<br>
> slice1 IN A 174.143.204.116<br>
> <a href="http://bronosky.com" target="_blank">bronosky.com</a>. IN MX 0 <a href="http://slice1.bronosky.com" target="_blank">slice1.bronosky.com</a>.<br>
> <a href="http://bronosky.com" target="_blank">bronosky.com</a>. IN MX 0 <a href="http://bronosky.com" target="_blank">bronosky.com</a>.<br>
> <a href="http://bronosky.com" target="_blank">bronosky.com</a>. IN MX 0 <a href="http://mail.bronosky.com" target="_blank">mail.bronosky.com</a>.<br>
><br>
> I'd like to send a big thank you to Jim Kinney for his patient assistance,<br>
> emails, watching the logs for me at least three different times, and even<br>
> chatting with me over GoogleTalk. I couldn't have done it without him.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> .!# RichardBronosky #!.<br>
><br>
><br>
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