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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The problem is I’m not allowed to destroy the
existing install. I had a set of SCO install media laying around her from a
previously inherited box but it was version 3 not the Open Server stuff so I
was afraid to try anything with it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Back in the dawn of time (a/k/a before
1996) I actually worked on SCO 3.2 4.2 and earlier (even Xenix). I often
loaded BTLD for new servers (mostly IBM PS/2 and NCR microchannel boxes). I
just didn’t know if DPT SCSI was one built into the default media or one that
required a BTLD. I have vague recollections of seeing DPT in installs so
thought it might be a default.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Taking a backup would require 1) A way to
get on the system in the first place. 2) A backup medium.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>My main issue is number 1 – As of yet no
one has provided us with any passwords and we’re not confident anyone ever
will. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>At this point I’m just trying to hack the
root account to get into the box to see what is there. It boots find from the
drives. If I could login to it I could create my own boot/root floppies.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Can you tell me anything about the FS type
used on your SCO box? Is it something Linux would recognize? I can look at
making a Linux boot floppy and try to find a dpt driver for same if it isn’t in
the default kernel/initrd.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> ale-bounces@ale.org
[mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Neal
Rhodes<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, September 28, 2009
11:06 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> ale@ale.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [ale] SCO boot.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 10:33 -0400, ale-request@ale.org wrote:<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Message: 6<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:24:22 -0400<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From: "<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Jeff Lightner</st1:PersonName>" <<a
href="mailto:jlightner@water.com">jlightner@water.com</a>><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Subject: [ale] SCO Open Server 5 boot root floppies?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>To: "<st1:PersonName
w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Atlanta</st1:place></st1:City> Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!</st1:PersonName>" <<a
href="mailto:ale@ale.org">ale@ale.org</a>><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Message-ID: <<a
href="mailto:99E6A67A9DA87041A8020FBC11F480B30352FF32@EXVS01.dsw.net">99E6A67A9DA87041A8020FBC11F480B30352FF32@EXVS01.dsw.net</a>><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Does anyone happen to still have a SCO system with Open Server 5 on it<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>that would be willing to create boot/root floppies I could borrow?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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12.0pt'><br>
I do in fact have a working SCO OS5.02 system, and in fact this summer used it
to help someone convert their<br>
defunct accounting server to linux. <br>
<br>
There are going to be some difficulties regarding boot floppies - they varied
depending on which disk <br>
controller was used. I can build you a set, but it will be assuming
the SCSI disk is connected to the NCR Symbios<br>
controller on my DEC server. It's not going to recognize a
DPT controller. There might be much mumbo jumbo<br>
with BTLD floppies. You could also in
theory re-run the install, including the BTLD stuff, right up to the point
where <br>
it's recognized the hard drive, and then break out and try and .... well,
do the very limited things you can do with the very <br>
few utilities present on the install diskettes.
My recollection is that it's much harder than it sounds. <br>
<br>
You might want to think through exactly what you are trying to accomplish
here. Might be better to just take a<br>
backup tape and restore it elsewhere. Those were
bad old days most sane people would rather not try to <br>
remember. <br>
<br>
Another strategy would be simply to build another SCO server with SCSI of any
flavor, and then stuff your drive in<br>
after booting off the primary, and pull off what you need. If
I'm remembering right, you could have an IDE primary root<br>
drive, and it would consider the SCSI drives to be 2nd in the pecking
order. The process is a little tricky if you haven't <br>
done it before; one wrong answer and it will cheerfully re-format
your SCSI drive. <br>
<br>
SCO didn't dynamically discover new hardware like Linux. So every
new bit you configure, recompile kernel, reboot, and hope<br>
the new kernel finds the hardware. <br>
<br>
Neal Rhodes<br>
MNOP Ltd<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>We have a need to try to explore a SCO server we may be inheriting and<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>the CD drive was kaput so my Linux and Backtrack CDs weren't of much<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>help. <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>From boot messages it appears the server has DPT SCSI and VisionFS<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>(which I'm assuming is the filesystem type but may be wrong). <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I'm going to investigate Linux on floppy (unfortunately I didn't have<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>one with me when I examined it) but am not sure it would have a driver<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>for the DPT SCSI or would recognize the filesystem.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Also since I need to be able to boot from these to try to mount the<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>filesystems I'd need to know the root password for the floppies so of<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>course you'd need to make it a temporary password before creating the<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>floppies.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Alternatively if anyone KNOWS (not guesses) another way to hack root on<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>SCO I'd appreciate hearing about it. From what I can find on line the<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>only sure way to do it is with boot/root floppies.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
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