yup. Russian team was shocked. It was very inconsiderable of Borland to do that. Obviously, they were just thinking money, not people.<br><br>Yup, having worked 6 years with India myself, I know all about it.<br><br clear="all">
-- Asher <br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Jeff Lightner <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jlightner@water.com">jlightner@water.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Maybe but imagine if you'd been an American stranded in Russia instead.<br>
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Having worked and traveled outside the US has made me appreciate what we have here a lot more.<br>
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One of my prior employers got miffed at me when I put a 5 week limit on a "temporary" install trip to India and made them put it in the documentation that if 5 weeks wasn't sufficient they HAD to fly in a new team. Sure enough at the end of 4 weeks they "suggested" they might need to keep us longer at which point I reminded them of the condition.<br>
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That condition by the way was insisted upon because an installation team at the employer before hadn't gotten stuck in Kapalua Hawaii for more than 6 months on a "2 week install trip". Being stuck in Hawaii doesn't sound like such a bad thing but having worked in the Caribbean I can tell you working in paradise and vacationing there are NOT the same.<br>
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From: <a href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org">ale-bounces@ale.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org">ale-bounces@ale.org</a>] On Behalf Of Jim Kinney<br>
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On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Asher Vilensky<<a href="mailto:ashervilensky@gmail.com">ashervilensky@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> It's funny to me to read "Borland" and "smart" in the same sentence. At the<br>
> time, they brought an entire dev team from Russia to Atlanta - only to lay<br>
> everybody off a month or two later. Saw it with my own two eyes.<br>
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That sucks! It's bad enough getting laid off. Really bad getting<br>
relocated then laid off. But relocated to another freaking side of the<br>
globe and THEN laid off....<br>
<br>
That sucks big time.<br>
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> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Jeff Lightner <<a href="mailto:jlightner@water.com">jlightner@water.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> If they'd been smart they'd have done what Borland did after they bought<br>
>> dBaseII way back when and already owned Paradox. They'd just issue updates<br>
>> to both products so they were exactly alike. Doing it this way just annoys<br>
>> your install base who say to themselves: "If I've got to migrate why<br>
>> migrate to something these putzes make - might as well do something else."<br>
>> Then again many vendors will create a "migration path" before dumping stuff.<br>
>><br>
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>> From: <a href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org">ale-bounces@ale.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org">ale-bounces@ale.org</a>] On Behalf Of Brian<br>
>> Pitts<br>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:28 AM<br>
>> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!<br>
>> Subject: Re: [ale] Xen<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 06/23/2009 07:49 AM, Jeff Lightner wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Right but it goes on to say they're folding it into their own Oracle VM<br>
>> and that both were based on Xen.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Since I never heard of Virtual Iron before I can't say much about it. If<br>
>> it was Open Source then they can only quit supporting it themselves without<br>
>> killing it. However, I wonder if the reason it is being killed isn't<br>
>> because no one ever heard of it and it had an uphill battle against VMWare,<br>
>> Xen and other options.<br>
>><br>
>> This thread was started by Jim posting old news about Oracle buying<br>
>> Virtual Iron. It turned out that within a month of buying them, Oracle fired<br>
>> almost everyone and discontinued the project. It seems like a rather<br>
>> expensive way to get more customers for your own product.<br>
>><br>
>> I am pretty curious to see what happens in the Sun xVM v Oracle VM fight.<br>
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