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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>What does Borland do these days? A year
or so ago they put their name on top of a building near the NW I-285/I-75 Cobb
Cloverleaf.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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ale-bounces@ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Asher Vilensky<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:33
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Atlanta
Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [ale] Xen</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>It's funny to me to read
"Borland" and "smart" in the same sentence. At the
time, they brought an entire dev team from <st1:country-region w:st="on">Russia</st1:country-region>
to <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Atlanta</st1:place></st1:City> -
only to lay everybody off a month or two later. Saw it with my own two
eyes.<br>
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-- Asher Vilensky<br>
<a href="mailto:ashervilensky@gmail.com">ashervilensky@gmail.com</a><br>
Home: 404-377-8434<br>
Cell: 404 452 8642<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 12:19 PM, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Jeff
Lightner</st1:PersonName> <<a href="mailto:jlightner@water.com">jlightner@water.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>If they’d been smart they’d have done what Borland did after
they bought dBaseII way back when and already owned Paradox. They’d just
issue updates to both products so they were exactly alike. Doing it this
way just annoys your install base who say to themselves: “If I’ve got to
migrate why migrate to something these putzes make – might as well do something
else.” Then again many vendors will create a “migration path” before
dumping stuff.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a
href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org" target="_blank">ale-bounces@ale.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org" target="_blank">ale-bounces@ale.org</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Brian Pitts<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:28
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Atlanta
Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [ale] Xen</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>On 06/23/2009 07:49 AM, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Jeff Lightner</st1:PersonName>
wrote: </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Right but it goes on to say they’re folding it into their own
Oracle VM and that both were based on Xen.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Since I never heard of Virtual Iron before I can’t say much
about it. If it was Open Source then they can only quit supporting it
themselves without killing it. However, I wonder if the reason it
is being killed isn’t because no one ever heard of it and it had an uphill
battle against VMWare, Xen and other options.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'><br>
</span></font>This thread was started by Jim posting old news about Oracle
buying Virtual Iron. It turned out that within a month of buying them, Oracle
fired almost everyone and discontinued the project. It seems like a rather
expensive way to get more customers for your own product.<br>
<br>
I am pretty curious to see what happens in the Sun xVM v Oracle VM fight.<br>
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All the best,<br>
Brian Pitts<o:p></o:p></p>
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