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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think that is amusing to say “HP
on the low end”. HP’s big servers are used in large data centers
(we use them here, Cisco uses them, and a phone company I used to work for
uses them.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In fact for “low end” (read
application servers as opposed to DB servers) both Cisco and my current company
moved to RedHat Linux. Cisco did it on HP Intel systems and we did it here on
Dell systems. However in both places the DB servers continue to be on HP-UX.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So far as the current UNIX flavors go I
prefer HP-UX by far over Solaris and AIX. However, to me UNIX is UNIX and
even Linux is UNIX so I’m happy with all of them and the preferences are
just that. Just don’t make me do Windoze.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Your comments about the Weather Channel
are interesting. I know you were on the web side of the house. I have a
friend on the other side who said they went to Solaris briefly but found it
couldn’t perform for their needs and went back to HP-UX. That was a
year or so ago. Not sure what they’re doing these days but assume they
still have the HP-UX systems.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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ale-bounces@ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jerald Sheets<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, March 19, 2009
10:50 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">ale@ale.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [ale] IBM to buy SUN?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I don't think AIX would
be dumped any time soon. <br>
<br>
They have a LOT of things built in for government clients (like triple
authentication and such) that were built specifically for agencies that I can
guarantee you won't be changing any time soon. (although I can't tell you
why) ;)<br>
<br>
<br>
Also, think about the medical market. Generally speaking, the medical
market does AIX for mid-range and HP for lower-end. (superdome
notwithstanding). Most off the big guys out there (Cerner, Lawson,
McKesson) generally support AIX & HP and only grudgingly support Solaris
(unless that changed within the last 4 years or so. I left healthcare in
2005)<br>
<br>
>From a personal preferences perspective, I like AIX over Solaris because it was
my first commercial UNIX, my first UNIX classes, my first consulting UNIX, and
then Redhat followed close behind. (I had used Slack previously)
Right as I stopped using AIX, they were at 5.2L and had a very nice method of
handling the FOSS stuff. Add Bull Freeware and UWA to that, and you've
got a nice set of tools. Anything you don't have, though, just go to the
LInux world and roll your own. <br>
<br>
>From what I saw in my time at The Weather Channel, you should be able to build
much more resilient hardware solutions for serving of enterprise apps over
Linux/Oracle or Linux/Mysql (clustered or replicated) {Hi Sid!} that can handle
MUCH more capacity and processing need than you can get with standard mid-range
gear. (since I'm from an IBM background, I think S70, S80, P690, etc.
when I say that)<br>
<br>
There is *nothing* in the medical space that requires the IBM or HP or Sun
gear, but the medical establishment is doing "one source purchasing"
and wants things with contracts and maintenance and frankly, the Cerners and
Lawsons of the world aren't yet going toward Linux in a big way yet, only (from
what I've heard) is McKesson trying to get into some of that.<br>
<br>
If I had my druthers, I'd rather keep AIX, but like vi vs emacs, that's an
argument that'll be around a lot longer than either of those OSes will be in their
current respective forms.<br>
<br>
--j<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:50 AM, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Jeff
Lightner</st1:PersonName> <<a href="mailto:jlightner@water.com">jlightner@water.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>We have two SCO boxes here but they are running in Legacy mode.
On one<br>
I don't think anyone but me has logged in for the last 4+ years and the<br>
other one they've told me I can decommission.<br>
<br>
It's a shame. SCO UNIX (especially after 3.2.4.2) was a rather good<br>
UNIX implementation for PCs. Part of its beauty was they only sold the<br>
OS so worked hard to insure they worked on a variety of hardware. The<br>
evil powers that later took them over and pretended they owned Linux<br>
source code gave them a really bad name.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org">ale-bounces@ale.org</a> [mailto:<a
href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org">ale-bounces@ale.org</a>] On Behalf Of Mike<br>
<st1:place w:st="on">Harrison</st1:place><br>
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:02 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:ale@ale.org">ale@ale.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [ale] IBM to buy SUN?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>> On a related note,
it appears that another UNIX OS will eventually<br>
join<br>
> SCO in the tarpit. Killed by linux? I can't see IBM keeping
both AIX<br>
<br>
> and Solaris.<br>
<br>
At least I actually know people who use AIX and Solaris in production at<br>
<br>
real businesses. I haven't seen a SCO machine in a while.. Except for<br>
one<br>
running a local medical practice (green screens on serial terms).<br>
Their "upgrade" is RedHat and a web browser interface.<br>
<br>
I even did some DB2 on Linux a few years ago, ran well<br>
and there are lots of weird custom business things that<br>
use it, love it.<br>
<br>
I'll contend IBM will support them as long as there are paying<br>
customers.<br>
Maybe they will merge the two into a new future OS: SolarAIX,<br>
SlowlarAIX..<br>
SIX, SAIX .. the possible acronomyms are endless..<br>
<br>
Overall, it might be a good thing for the FOSS community if they<br>
continue<br>
their combined support for it.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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