Paul,<br>I'll preface this by saying that this by saying that I have only used Google apps for small companies, including one of mine. I don't send massive amounts of system mail through it. A friend at work does use gmail to get our root mail. We get up to 1000 messages a day. I use mutt pointing at an imap server at my full-time job to handle all that mail.<br>
<br>What I like about Google Apps Mail:<br><br>#1 spam filtering; it must be one of the best on the planet; best of all I don't have to deal with it; fighting spammers just stinks. There's just way more fun stuff to admin than RBLs, greylisting, and blocked phisher email addresses. I'm sure there are some pretty good tools out there. Or, I could pay postini (who does a good job, I hear).<br>
<br>#2 ~7GB for *free*!<br>#3 imap & pop ability<br>#4 good web interface (even works reasonably well over my boost mobile 19k connection)<br>
#6 reliability - ever had a box colo'd somewhere inaccessible/far away die on you? IP ever changed (because you moved residences)? There are better ways to do things than how I've done them in the past. But, giving someone else the headache is fine by me. Plus, I think the app mail may be sent by the same servers as regular gmail. I dare any one to blacklist gmail (though I'm sure most of us are tempted often).<br>
#7 integrated apps (calendar is great, docs is cool, I even use sites/googlepages)<br><br>Dislikes<br>- dependency on someone else<br>- lack of support (If there is a serious problem, good luck); short outages are fairly common; I've noticed it with my contact list especially<br>
- privacy issues<br><br>Yes, my email fu may wane over time. But, I'm hoping SMTP will go the way of the fax machine soon anyhow. Maybe some of these DKIM-type workarounds will help improve my grim outlook of the future of email.<br>
<br>Meanwhile, I'll play with Asterisk, Xen, and other, sexier Linux capabilities.<br><br>Email admins everywhere, I salute and envy you for your steadfastness.<br><br>Brian<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Jim Popovitch <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jimpop@gmail.com">jimpop@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="Ih2E3d">On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 15:07, Paul Cartwright <<a href="mailto:ale@pcartwright.com">ale@pcartwright.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> On Wed February 18 2009, Jim Popovitch wrote:<br>
>> >> ~$ host 72.52.240.4<br>
>> >> 4.240.52.72.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer<br>
>> >> <a href="http://host.wholesalechandeliers.com" target="_blank">host.wholesalechandeliers.com</a>. ~$ host <a href="http://host.wholesalechandeliers.com" target="_blank">host.wholesalechandeliers.com</a><br>
>> >> Host <a href="http://host.wholesalechandeliers.com" target="_blank">host.wholesalechandeliers.com</a> not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)<br>
>> ><br>
>> > so, this is an AMS issue. Do I need to push back on them to get this<br>
>> > resolved? Or do I just move providers to someplace that is a little more<br>
>> > secure?<br>
>><br>
>> According to whois, it is up to <a href="mailto:SEROUYA@AOL.COM">SEROUYA@AOL.COM</a> as he/she is listed as<br>
>> the technical contact for <a href="http://wholesalechandeliers.com" target="_blank">wholesalechandeliers.com</a>.<br>
>><br>
>> Ideally you would have AMS/liquidweb/sourcedns set a PTR like<br>
>> <a href="http://mail.wholesalechandeliers.com" target="_blank">mail.wholesalechandeliers.com</a> and then have SEROUYA (or GoDaddy) set<br>
>> up an A record for <a href="http://mail.wholesalechandeliers.com" target="_blank">mail.wholesalechandeliers.com</a><br>
><br>
> actually, that example is wrong:<br>
> ~# host 72.52.240.41<br>
> Name: <a href="http://liquid1.wznoc.com" target="_blank">liquid1.wznoc.com</a><br>
> Address: 72.52.240.41<br>
<br>
</div>Ahhh, I left off the trailing 1 when I copied from your original post.<br>
<br>
72.52.240.41 seems good to me.<br>
<br>
-Jim P.<br>
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