<div dir="ltr">--- Satan is my meat puppet. <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 6:07 PM, Jeff Lightner <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jlightner@water.com">jlightner@water.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Personally I don't understand folks that don't like top posting. When<br>
I'm reading emails in a thread I'm usually keeping up with them so would<br>
prefer to read the "top post" in latest email than read through all the<br>
stuff I'd already seen to get to it. We can disagree on that and its<br>
clear different people on the list do.<br>
<br>
Top sigging, as you call it, is a completely different thing. When I<br>
saw (and didn't comment) the first time he did it the post looked like<br>
its only intent was to proselytize but when I looked at the bottom I saw<br>
that there was an actual response.<br>
<br>
However, when he did it again it made it clear to me that the purpose in<br>
"top sigging" was indeed to make it prominent and thereby proselytize<br>
and I responded to that.<br>
<br>
How would he (or you) feel if every post I made had a "top sig" of<br>
"Allah Akbar" or "Satan is my Master"? Or how would the conservatives<br>
on the list feel if every post had a "top sig" of "W destroyed America"?<br>
<br>
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From: <a href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org">ale-bounces@ale.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org">ale-bounces@ale.org</a>] On Behalf Of<br>
Geoffrey<br>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 3:13 PM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:ale@ale.org">ale@ale.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [ale] Firefox Keeps Freezing After Flash Upgrade<br>
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Jeff Lightner wrote:<br>
> Do we really need this proselytizing at the beginning of posts?<br>
<br>
Lighten up, we see all kind of sigs fly through the list. Since you're<br>
top posting, what's wrong with top 'sigging?'<br>
<br>
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Marc<br>
> Ferguson<br>
> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 1:28 PM<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:ale@ale.org">ale@ale.org</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [ale] Firefox Keeps Freezing After Flash Upgrade<br>
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><br>
><br>
> ---<br>
> Marc F.<br>
><br>
> "..Grace to you and peace from Him who is and who was and who is to<br>
> come.." -Rev1:4<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:01 AM, Marc Ferguson<br>
<<a href="mailto:marcferguson@gmail.com">marcferguson@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
> ---<br>
> Marc F.<br>
><br>
> "..Grace to you and peace from Him who is and who was and who is to<br>
> come.." -Rev1:4<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Marc Ferguson<br>
<<a href="mailto:marcferguson@gmail.com">marcferguson@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Joey Rutledge <<a href="mailto:joey@joeyrutledge.com">joey@joeyrutledge.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Marc Ferguson wrote, On 10/22/2008 06:12 AM:<br>
><br>
> > Hi Fellas,<br>
> ><br>
> > I need a bit of help with figuring out why my Firefox keeps<br>
> crashing.<br>
> > I did a "strace firefox" and the results are posted here:<br>
> > <a href="http://rafb.net/p/G6lnpk54.html" target="_blank">http://rafb.net/p/G6lnpk54.html</a><br>
> ><br>
> > I originally wanted to figure out why Fedora's audio seemed to<br>
> be<br>
> > single-threaded. I can play one audio device at a time. If I<br>
> had<br>
> > Banshee playing, I could watch any YouTube videos (well I<br>
> could, but<br>
> > there would be no sound). So; I asked someone from the<br>
> #fedora IRC<br>
> > and they told me to install "libflashsupport.i386" because<br>
> Flash 9<br>
> > doesn't support pulseaudio too well. So; I installed it and<br>
> it<br>
> > worked. Very soon after it played on Flash file, I tried to<br>
> play<br>
> > another and my browser froze. Since then I've copied and<br>
> pasted the<br>
> > latest Flash 10.so into my firefox plugin's directory and the<br>
> same<br>
> > thing happens?<br>
> ><br>
> > I saw in the output (on line 67, 368, 369, etc) that it's<br>
> referencing<br>
> > my download folder for flash 10, why?<br>
> ><br>
> > ---<br>
> > Marc F.<br>
> ><br>
> > "..Grace to you and peace from Him who is and who was and who<br>
> is to<br>
> > come.." -Rev1:4<br>
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> This seems really similar to an issue I had recently. Depending<br>
> on what<br>
> version of Firefox you are using there is a known bug for<br>
> version 3.0.1<br>
> (maybe others?) and windowless mode SWF files. For me my<br>
> browser would<br>
> crash anytime I went to a site that had flash ads, such as<br>
> <a href="http://wunderground.com" target="_blank">wunderground.com</a> or <a href="http://cnn.com" target="_blank">cnn.com</a>.<br>
><br>
> I am not necessarily saying that your issue is the same but it<br>
> might be<br>
> worth an investigation. Basically in /etc/adobe/mms.cfg (create<br>
> it if<br>
> you don't have one) you set "WindowlessDisable = 1"<br>
><br>
> Here is the page that talks about the bug:<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2008/08/windowless_mode_fix.html" target="_blank">http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2008/08/windowless_mode_fix.html</a><br>
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> Joey<br>
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> Thanks Joey. I'll give it a try when I get home today.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> I didn't find that file on my system. I then went to #fedora to ask<br>
and<br>
> they lead me to this site,<br>
> <a href="http://fedorasolved.org/browser-solutions/flash/?searchterm=flash" target="_blank">http://fedorasolved.org/browser-solutions/flash/?searchterm=flash</a>. As<br>
> of date I haven't fixed the problem yet and I'm even more confused now<br>
> than ever. All of this crashing happened after I installed<br>
> "libflashsupport.i386". Damn, I wish I didn't. Is there a way to go<br>
> back to status quo? I already removed libflashsupport - how about my<br>
> firefox config files? Thanks.<br>
><br>
><br>
> So; just to give an update. I removed "flash-player" through my<br>
package<br>
> manager (flash version 10) and then installed it again. My firefox<br>
> still crashes, but it seems to crash only after I leave a site that<br>
> flash was playing on. Before; it would crash after playing 1 flash<br>
> movie - now (for example: YouTube) I can watch multiple flash movies,<br>
> but if I go to another web site it'll crash.<br>
><br>
> Is there a way to reset this craziness. I've already uninstalled<br>
> "libflashsupport", but that's where it all started going south!<br>
Thanks<br>
> for any help.<br>
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