Well, there should be nothing going into /var/log/messages pertaining to anything a DBA has perms to resolve anyway.<br><br>(I resisted the urge to scream "because it ISN'T any of their business"!)<br><br>Messages has connectivity data. If connections to the system are a problem, that is not a DBA issue. It's a sysadmin issue. <br>
<br>Others have discussed the accidental password as username issue and that is ammo enough to bar all non-root-access users from ever gaining access to most of /var/log. There is a reason why most database systems have their own log file process and location.<br>
<br>Lastly, the warm and fuzzy reason, it encourages close collaboration between the DBA and systems people.<br><br>Nah! Just kidding. The Sys Admins all know the DBA's are mostly one trick bozos who coldn't type up a shell script with a book and a coach and the DBA think the admons are a bunch of hygiene challenged smug SOB's who just get in the way of their glory moment.<br>
<br>:-)<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/4/8 Jeff Lightner <<a href="mailto:jlightner@water.com">jlightner@water.com</a>>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p dir="ltr"><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">/var/log/messages is currently only read/write for root with no permissions for anyone else.</font></span></p>
<p dir="ltr"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">Other than</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Arial" size="2">"</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">none of their business</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">"</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2"> can anyone tell me any reason not to allow DBAs the ability to read the file (</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">i.e.</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2"> change it to be read</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Arial" size="2">for group and other)?</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span></p>
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