I'll reply to this one set, and then I'll stop. It's getting more and
more irrelevant to the ALE list.
Benjamin Scherrey wrote:
> Did MS achieve that dominance by forcing people to use their software
> or just being extremely competitive. I believe more the later than the
> former. Please reexamine your premise.
My premise is fine, thankyouverymuch. MS *did* break the law with its business
practices, and *did* use its monopoly power in the OS market (which, by itself,
is not necessarily bad, but they achieved it via questionable methods) to gain
dominance in the apps market, which *is* illegal.
> You limit yourself to a very
> simple and increasingly irrelevant business model. Operating systems
> and hardware are becoming commoditized rapidly. All you need to do is
> develop your software to be platform independent - something I've been
> doing since 1991 and quite simple to achieve today, especially with
> Java, for example. Now you're not tied to any particular OS or
> hardware platform. You've got a great competitive advantage that MS
> cannot (or will not) afford to chase after.
Don't teach your grandmother to suck eggs....I know all about writing for
multiple platforms. But the OS is not a commodity yet, due to MS's dominance,
and that is the problem - until there is a competitor that the people buying
the majority of computers actually consider as an option, MS hold the ropes.
> The second is Netscape which was a company
> that was giving their product (the browser) away themselves!!! I never
> paid a penny for my Netscape Navigator. Netscape's loss of dominance
> was Netscape's fault and Microsoft (wisely) took advantage of their
> weaknesses. No monopolistic deeds required.
Except the meeting offering to divide the market, and the use of Windows to
distribute IE, and the tying to block OEMs from offering NS as a browser.....
>
> Revenues from software do not only come from software licenses. For
> big companies especially, support fees are often a greater source of
> income. The last Oracle financial report I read (a few years ago)
> listed related services as a greater source of revenue than their
> software sales. Look at RedHat's business model. The Open Source
> movement is an extremely competitive model that Microsoft simply has
> no realistic response to yet.
MS's failure to compete now does not excuse its criminal acts previously.
> But you (and the Justice Department) miss the point. Where do all
> these other "side businesses" end up? I was simply pointing out that
> MS does a lot more than sell Windows and Microsoft Office and that the
> proposed deal completely ignores this fact.
But MS doesn't control even a majority of the ISP business, or the broadcast
news business, etc - in those arenas, MS is just another player. Thus, no
monopoly, and therefore no concern of the DOJ.
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