I have been keeping up with this thread and I am interested in taking the
course.
What I would like to know is:
What are the prospects in obtaining a job after this course has been
completed?
With my experience (4yrs) what kind of work can I expect? And how much pay?
How much demand is there for a system admin?
In short, what doors will this open for me?
In reference to the comments about semester courses and straight classes,
I have not taken a semester class that can move as fast as I can learn.
And all of them contain information repeated from other classes, and filler
data that is useless.
They waste my time giving me computer history that every other class in
computers does and hand
out only enough information to stretch the class over 3 months. Real
experience is what counts and
finding solutions to problems that are not in any book is what really
matters. That sort of thing cannot be done in a classroom.
In addition, College classes just cannot keep up with the constant change in
the computer industry.
By the time a semester is over, the course subject can become history before
anyone can master it.
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Douse it with gasoline and Flame it!
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>
> Rick
>
> On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:32:04 -0500 (EST), you wrote:
>
> >
> >My humble and biased opinion, since I am one of the instructors:
> >
> >The Linux system admin course is only useful if you are starting
> >your sys admin job or will be doing so shortly afterward. It
> >will cut your learning curves substantially, perhaps months or a
> >year. If you won't be doing sys admin in the near future, it
> >will be a waste since you will not retain the training knowledge
> >and understanding.
> >
> >Doing it from a book, or by on-line resources like FAQ/Linux-HOWTO
> >will take longer. But, the practical knowledge gained there will
> >also be retained for a much longer period. It would be the best
> >venue if you have time and a strong desire. You will still need
> >mentors and experienced people, but there are also more willing
> >people on the net to fulfill those roles.
> >
> >The course is designed to target corporate IT people. They may
> >already have the knowledge and just need to bridge over to the
> >Linux terminology and how Linux/Unix works. We also want to
> >jump start them right into building and maintaining a Linux
> >server in a short time. I would not reccommend the course if
> >you have to pay for yourself.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >Bao
> >
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> >On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Joe Knapka wrote:
> >
> >> My personal (and humble) opinion:
> >>
> >> No course I've ever taken short of a full quarter-
> >> or semester-length program has been worth the money
> >> I paid for it. I've never taken the course in question,
> >> but I -have- taken professional certification courses
> >> in other areas from vendors and educational companies,
> >> and they've all been a lot like trying to train for
> >> a marathon by getting off the couch and running ten
> >> miles a day for five days in succession.
> >>
> >> Honestly, you are a -lot- better off spending $50 or
> >> $100 on -good- books, building a kick-ass Linux box
> >> for yourself with the $1900 you saved by skipping the
> >> class, and working it out on your own. The kind of
> >> skills you want are the kind that soak into your skin
> >> when they are used on a regular basis. No five-day
> >> course can prepare you for the everyday tasks you'll
> >> face when administering a real system, because they'll
> >> spend 15 minutes on each topic, and concentrate mainly
> >> on making you feel good so you won't ask for your
> >> money back.
> >>
> >> Yours truly, in asbestos panties,
> >>
> >> -- Joe
> >>
> >> Rick Barter wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I'm thinking of taking the Mastering Linux - Linux System
> >> > Administration course in February.
> >> >
> >> > Before I spend $2000, however, I'd like to know if anyone has taken
> >> > this course and what you thought of it. I don't want to waste my
> time
> >> > or money.
> >> >
> >> > Things I would like to know:
> >> >
> >> > Do you gain insight and really learn helpful information from the
> >> > instructors or are you just sitting there working through
> instructions
> >> > from a book?
> >> >
> >> > After taking the class were you ready to set up all the things
> covered
> >> > in the class? In other words, were you self-sufficient afterward?
> >> >
> >> > Is the $2000 well-spent taking this course or would I be better to
> >> > take the RedHat Certification classes from Global Knowledge (
> >> > http://am.globalknowledge.com )?
> >> >
> >> > My goals are to be proficient enough to employ the skills at home to
> >> > set up my own Linux box with my own domain, nameserver, and database.
> >> > Also, I would like these skills to be able to transfer to work. I'm
> >> > currently a developer and want to include system administration in my
> >> > skill set with the idea that I may pursue this in the future.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for any help or insight that you can give me.
> >> >
> >> > Sincerely,
> >> >
> >> > Rick
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