<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif;font-size:8pt"><div><span>Hello all,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>I'm not very technical, albeit part of the IT work force, so don't have advice directly related to Linux admin, but since I've helped a number of people transition to IT from completely non-technical fields, I figure I'd share.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial,
'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>In my opinion, the best way to transition into IT is to find the shortest path to get employed in an IT field, and then learn your way to your targeted skill / job. That way you learn while making money, and don't have to do it 'on your own time', so your family life is affected as little as possible.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida
Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>The fastest way to accomplish this is through QA (testing). Basic QA tasks - especially in software development - are essentially an organized way of using an application. In other words a person manually testing the facebook application is using facebook in an organized fashion and reporting back findings of its features and bugs. The only thing he / she has to learn is that 'organized' part.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>One can get the basic skills of a manual tester and be
working as a QA person in a month's time (I'm speaking from personal experience helping people with this). Once you're in the environment, you can soak up a lot of knowledge from other coworkers and the environment in general. Essentially on the job training.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Robert, if you want help in this regard I can provide some guidance. Depending on our schedules, my friend and I can possibly guide you on the resume part as well. Ping me if you're interested.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11px; font-family:
HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>aasem</span></div><div></div><div> </div><div>- - - - -
<br>Sent from my blueberry flavored iAbacus</div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 8pt;"> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Friday, 2 May 2014, 11:25, B. Robert <buzibar@gmail.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv8341179448"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="yiv8341179448gmail_default" style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Tx Mathew<br clear="none"></div></div><div class="yiv8341179448gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv8341179448yqt3628457595" id="yiv8341179448yqtfd85903"><div class="yiv8341179448gmail_quote">On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Matthew <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect"
ymailto="mailto:simontek@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:simontek@gmail.com">simontek@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none">
<blockquote class="yiv8341179448gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr">To my complete surprise, I was recently hired at Indiana University as the GitHub admin. Not that I wasn't qualified, but the fact I don't have a degree was what surprised me. In this field, usually it doesn't matter whether or not you have a degree, as long as you know the work. There are exceptions, such as schools and hospital's that have the prestige thing going on. Certs can help a lot. Granted a lot of them we as professionals see as a joke, but HR and gov't doesn't. There are certs that do mean something such as the RHCE or OSCP. I currently hold the Linux+, net+, sec+, A+, LPIC1. My other certs are medical related. </div>
<div dir="ltr">Just get an OS going, crash it, break it. Google how to fix it. Come up with scenarios you would like to use. Oracle's virtualbox is handy. Stil do a dedicated box though. <br clear="none">
Howtoforge.com is a wonderful site. </div><div class="yiv8341179448HOEnZb"><div class="yiv8341179448h5">
<div class="yiv8341179448gmail_quote">On May 2, 2014 10:46 AM, "B. Robert" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:buzibar@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:buzibar@gmail.com">buzibar@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv8341179448gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div dir="ltr"><div class="yiv8341179448gmail_default" style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Lots of good advice from all of you<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv8341179448gmail_default" style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
JD, ill attend the next meeting, would love the opportunity to learn from you after the meeting<br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv8341179448gmail_default" style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br clear="none">When is the next meeting and where does that take place<br clear="none">
</div></div><div class="yiv8341179448gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv8341179448gmail_quote">On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:16 AM, JD <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:jdp@algoloma.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jdp@algoloma.com">jdp@algoloma.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv8341179448gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div><div>On 05/02/2014 09:41 AM, B. Robert wrote:<br clear="none">
> I moved here 2 years ago and looking to start a new career in IT, I work 2 jobs<br clear="none">
> to support my family and looking to do Linux system administration<br clear="none">
> It would be tough to enroll in a main stream college program and my background<br clear="none">
> has not been strong in computers as i am a High school.<br clear="none">
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> I need some advice on how to go about this, from a professional point of view or<br clear="none">
> experience from someone who has been through the same.<br clear="none">
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> Looking forward for any guidance<br clear="none">
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</div></div>Everyone seems to find their own way into becoming a UNIX admin. There isn't a<br clear="none">
set way to do it. Mine was strange too. Come to an ALE or GA-400 Linux meeting<br clear="none">
and I'll share the story after. I have ZERO formal training, but have been doing<br clear="none">
UNIX/Linux administration since 1996 in 1 way or another - never as my only job.<br clear="none">
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So - the best way is to get the company to pay for you to get trained by Redhat.<br clear="none">
If you want to make money, Redhat Certification is the best, most-likely, way to<br clear="none">
get paid in the end.<br clear="none">
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Lacking getting the company to pay, get a current Redhat Cert book, load up<br clear="none">
CentOS and start working through all the chapters systematically.<br clear="none">
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It should go unsaid that you need to use only Linux all day, every day, only<br clear="none">
dropping back to Windows when absolutely necessary. The struggle matters.<br clear="none">
Fedora is the desktop distro that RH people run.<br clear="none">
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It should be noted that I'm saying this as an Ubuntu Server Admin and Debian<br clear="none">
lover. That just is not where most of the money flows.<br clear="none">
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Most companies willing to pay well for admins (in the USA) will run RHEL. There<br clear="none">
are exceptions, of course. Similar thoughts happen for virtualization - VMware<br clear="none">
ESXi is the money-earner, XenServer 2nd, followed by all the free solutions.<br clear="none">
Virtualization is a core skill for any Linux admin now.<br clear="none">
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DevOps is a buzzword too - real admins have been doing DevOps since the<br clear="none">
beginning of time, but the tools are better today. This is also a core skill for<br clear="none">
any Admin, IMHO. Puppet, Chef, Ansible, CFEngine ... tools like that.<br clear="none">
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Being on projects with a budget matters. Just sayin' - RHEL, ESXi, Puppet are<br clear="none">
the skills to get paid.<br clear="none">
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